Nissan's highly anticipated ultra-bang-for-the-buck supercar slayer hasn't even rolled off the trucks and fanboys everywhere are doing what they do best - staging an all out hide-behind-your-computer pissing contest. With 470+ hp and a price tag sitting right between the Z06 and the 911, Nissan has clearly defined its targets.However, until these cars make their way into the hands of enterprising individuals to perform their own benchmarking, this conundrum will devolve into a veritable blood feud - speculation and preliminary magazine reviews be-damned.
Whet the appetite of your inner fanboy, and take a gander at what they're saying. (Choice snippets and links after the jump).
At GTRForums.com, they've got their panties in a bunch...
Meanwhile, the good ol' boys at corvetteforums have relegated themselves to making disparaging remarks about the GTR's appearance and dishing out choice rhetoric like the following:i have a hot news flash for corvetteforums:
a 5 year R&D program, rumoured to have an international team of engineers assembled, is not a thrown-together car.
next point: the GT-R ethos is to be a race car first and foremost, as it is homologated for street use for this very purpose to comply with regional and international sanctioning requirements for GT racing.
next point: the memories of many are evidently very short as only 3 years ago Nissan reissued the R34 in a limited edition road-going form called the Z-Tune. do you know what that car did? it became the fastest production car built at the time, destroying McLaren F1.
what do you think the Z-Tune was built to prove? it was created to foreshadow what direction the next generation of GT-R would take. why would Nissan R&D the GT-R for as long as they have to not beat the old-news Z06 benchmarks? or worse, "barely hang" with Porsche? such an ethos is not whatsoever what the GT-R is about --the GT-R is about domination and total victory to the extent of overkill.
next point: Corvette is a relative newcomer to international motorsports compared to Nissan and definitely compared to Porsche. why would Nissan overlook Corvette and only focus on Porsche, particularly when Corvette has been beating Porsche? the fact is that Nissan cannot be taken out to the cleaners by ---> an "American" car. that would be a total and absolute failure of mission for the GT-R ----- to beat Porsche but lose to a Corvette! the symbolic consequences of Corvette dominating the GT-R would be tantamount to death for Nissan's image and reputation on the world stage.
realistic is that the GT-R will outperform not only Porsche 997tt and Z06, but as well beat Porsche GT3 and possibly Carrera GT. the GT-R is an exotic-level performance car and is engineered for the long-haul warfare that is being fought as we speak in the new-era-reanaissance of horsepower and performance battles.
I suspect most of the fanboy nation across the US will not be buying one as it's way out of their price range. However, be prepared for the massive swelling of their collective (bird) chests as they proclaim "their GTR" as the be all, do all, of past/present/future automative engineeringPorsche owners, (especially the ones over at 6speedonline) who generally like to keep the piss off their hands at a minimum, had some jabs at the GTR's portliness..
I already experience this: GTR Kook was telling me how the GTR was going to wipe the street with my Z06 - I simply said "well, when YOU get one to race against the Z06 that I actually OWN, I will conceed it's better if you win". I'm assuming the 2020 model years will be available when this actually happens...
The New GT-R weighs 3800 + lbs and likely will have under 500 hp. It's the usual overhype, I dont see why people wont just let the car establish itself before they go around blabbing about it killing corvettes and 911's. Let it do something first. You couldnt tell the fanboys it wasnt going to beat the CGT at the ring (it was difficult to tell them not possible for the 7:15 rumor), then when the weight specs came out there was a wave of silence. Then back to the usual "it doesnt matter" when it comes to specs.
Overall, I like the car, but some of the fanboys make it hard to enjoy with the "godzilla" killing everything etc etc etc. If the specs motortrend released are accurate (because they had interior and engine shots never released before, so it's very possible), 0-60 in 3.5, 11.7 1/4 mile and 192 top speed @ 38000 lbs they'd better be coming with a sequel.
So what do you guys think? Which cuisine...er..supercar, will reign supreme?
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Comment is a little late compared to the publication to this article but, the GTR has basically won as of March 2008. At least, in my opinion. GTR is extensively affordable for the performance.
The Corvette owners can hide behind the "you don't own one" for a short time. This car is a rarity, and only those willing to drive like it should be driven will own one, unlike the absurd amount of Corvette owners out there.
Porsche owners are also in denial, as they are Porsche owners and believe the name of the car determines who wins. 70k for a supercar? Yes please. I'll use the money I saved by not buying a Porsche for another GTR. For fun.
Best of luck to Corvettes and Porsches though.
Heres a fact. Skyline beat the porsche and vette around a track in the hands of automotive journalists. The car is not manual tranny and is awd. Big surprise. What impressed me more was the z06
Better high speed braking
faster accelerating, MUCH faster over 100mph
Same skidpad as the awd gtr
somehow they say the gtr was faster, I think, it was merely ease of use that won it around the track seeing as though every other test would indicate the z06 being a FAR superior track car. ALSO very important to note, this is a short term test. The z06 is guaranteed to get better and better the longer it drives, while the skylines 4000 pounds wears in fast and hard on the brakes and tires.
The thing is, you don't need to be nearly as good of a driver to get all of the GTR's potential out of it. With AWD you basically put the pedal to the floor and you have its best 0-60, 1/4 mile etc. The facts are, the z06 has been testes at 10.9 1/4 bone stock with stock tires. I dont know what actually faster on the track, but you can't deny that the automotive journalists get better results out of the GTR because it takes less talent to drive fast.
The Gt-r already set a record at Numemburg at 7:25. so all of you haters out there just fucking deal with it. Accept that you have been beat...
btw, the porches and vettes out there are quite nice.
I think like some others that although the gtr is quite impressive on all counts the Z06 is way faster then gtr.
5 plain seconds on the C/D tests from 0 to 140 mph in favor of the corvette : come count after me ..... the corvette passes by 1 2 3 4 5 here comes the datsun!
On the autobahn it counts believe me I very often drive there.
Good by fellows (not Ron bien entendu).
I SEE THE GTR AS A BANDWAGON CAR WHERE ALL THE "FAST AND THE FURIOUS" IDIOTS OUT THERE ARE GOING TO JUMP ON AND THINK THAT ITS THE BEST AND FASTEST CAR EVER MADE.
I SEE AS AN EXTREMELY WELL BUILT CAR BUT IT IS TUNED SO EXTENSIVELY FROM THE FACTORY THAT YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING YOURSELF TO IMPROVE ITS PERFORMANCE.
WHEREAS THE LS7 CORVETTE ENGINE FOR INSTANCE HAS MANY AFTERMARKET PERFORMANCE OPTIONS.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6594
Yeah apparently the vette and the 911 were owned by the GT-R. Hows that crow taste?
well GTR own z06 , watch it
http://mycars2007.blogspot.com/2008/09/gtr-vs-z06.html
where I work there is 3 types of driving,sit down or fall down,amusement park,and what the fuck am I doing here.Could you who drive these most incredible machines help me decide witch one will make me want to pull over and puke from too much?or should I just stick with twin 1028 hp v 12 cats doing 14 knots through unalga pass,been there,done that,puked scared,had fun,and pissed my self,No Vetts or911's around,Will the GT-R do that? be safe,and have fun.whiskey sierra Charley####
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